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		<title>By: Steven Tan</title>
		<link>http://catherinelim.sg/2009/05/06/fallout-of-the-aware-saga-a-letter-to-concerned-parents/comment-page-3/#comment-1168</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Tan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 01:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Christian Group Encroaching Secular Schools&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.bb.org.sg/cos/o.x?c=/wbn/pagetree&amp;func=view&amp;rid=31818&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The Boys&#039; Brigade is a Christian organisation. They should not be allowed in Non-Christian schools. This is another proof that a Christian group is encroaching
into secular space. The Ministry of Education should not allow it to happen. This shows the Ministry is biased in favour of Christianity allowing them to promote Christian values and proselytizing in schools!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christian Group Encroaching Secular Schools</p>

<p><a href="http://www.bb.org.sg/cos/o.x?c=/wbn/pagetree&amp;func=view&amp;rid=31818" rel="nofollow">http://www.bb.org.sg/cos/o.x?c=/wbn/pagetree&amp;func=view&amp;rid=31818</a></p>

<p>The Boys&#8217; Brigade is a Christian organisation. They should not be allowed in Non-Christian schools. This is another proof that a Christian group is encroaching
into secular space. The Ministry of Education should not allow it to happen. This shows the Ministry is biased in favour of Christianity allowing them to promote Christian values and proselytizing in schools!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Steven Tan</title>
		<link>http://catherinelim.sg/2009/05/06/fallout-of-the-aware-saga-a-letter-to-concerned-parents/comment-page-3/#comment-1167</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Tan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 01:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The Scapegoat&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;A look at the Bible reveals the origins of the term &quot;scapegoat.&quot; In accordance with religious rites, a goat designated as the scapegoat, was symbolically laden with the burden of the sins.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Leviticus 16:11
â€œAnd Aaron shall bring the bull of the sin offering, which is for himself, and make atonement for himself and for his house, and shall kill the bull as the sin offering which is for himself.â€&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Leviticus 16: 14.
â€œHe shall take some of the blood of the bull, and sprinkle it with his finger on the mercy seat on the east; and before the mercy seat he shall sprinkle some of the blood with his finger seven times.â€&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Leviticus 16: 15
â€œThen he shall kill the goat of the sin offering, which is for the people, bring its blood inside the veil, do with that blood as he did with the blood of the bull, and sprinkle it on the mercy seat and before the mercy seat. 16 So he shall make atonement for the Holy Place, because of the uncleanness of the children of Israel, and because of their transgressions, for all their sins.â€&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The ritual described above is barbaric. It was an expression by people with the barbaric and scapegoat mentality.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;John 3: 16
â€œFor God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.â€&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Influenced by the above ritual, the crucifixion of Jesus was given a scapegoat interpretation!  Our belief is the reflection of our mentality. The scapegoat interpretation attracts many people who have the scapegoat mentality of always finding a scapegoat for their wrongdoings and sins.
The clause, â€œwhoever believes in Himâ€, is a condition.
Love is unconditional. If there is a condition, it is not love. It is an exchange, trading and business transaction. It is an insult to the teaching of Jesus Christ by turning love into a trade. Now, you know why some pastors are millionaires.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Did God give His only begotten Son?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Mark 16:19 
â€œSo then, when the Lord Jesus had spoken to them, He was received up into heaven and sat down at the right hand of God.â€&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;God did not give His only begotten Son. Jesus went back and â€œsat down at the right hand of God.â€ 
If something is given and taken back, it is not giving.
If I have a son who can come back and sit at my right hand after he dies, I will happily send him to fight in the wars and die a hundred times.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;True sacrifice does not mean sacrificing a scapegoat or getting someone to die for you on the cross. This is the reason why Protestants and Catholics are having religious conflict. They cannot unite if they pray to Satan in the name of God. If they want harmony and peace, they must be guided by universal values because God guides them through the universal values.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Universal values are accepted by people of different religions because they are divine.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Religious values are not accepted by people of different religions because they are not divine.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The Thirty Year War (1618-1648) was a series of wars in central Europe stemmed from conflict between Protestants and Catholics.Four million people were killed and another 20 million were made homeless. Each group claimed it was fighting for God.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The lesson learnt from this war is we should separate religion from politics. Our daily life should be guided by universal values like care and compassion. Love for power should be replaced by power of love to care for our community and country.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Scapegoat</p>

<p>A look at the Bible reveals the origins of the term &#8220;scapegoat.&#8221; In accordance with religious rites, a goat designated as the scapegoat, was symbolically laden with the burden of the sins.</p>

<p>Leviticus 16:11
â€œAnd Aaron shall bring the bull of the sin offering, which is for himself, and make atonement for himself and for his house, and shall kill the bull as the sin offering which is for himself.â€</p>

<p>Leviticus 16: 14.
â€œHe shall take some of the blood of the bull, and sprinkle it with his finger on the mercy seat on the east; and before the mercy seat he shall sprinkle some of the blood with his finger seven times.â€</p>

<p>Leviticus 16: 15
â€œThen he shall kill the goat of the sin offering, which is for the people, bring its blood inside the veil, do with that blood as he did with the blood of the bull, and sprinkle it on the mercy seat and before the mercy seat. 16 So he shall make atonement for the Holy Place, because of the uncleanness of the children of Israel, and because of their transgressions, for all their sins.â€</p>

<p>The ritual described above is barbaric. It was an expression by people with the barbaric and scapegoat mentality.</p>

<p>John 3: 16
â€œFor God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.â€</p>

<p>Influenced by the above ritual, the crucifixion of Jesus was given a scapegoat interpretation!  Our belief is the reflection of our mentality. The scapegoat interpretation attracts many people who have the scapegoat mentality of always finding a scapegoat for their wrongdoings and sins.
The clause, â€œwhoever believes in Himâ€, is a condition.
Love is unconditional. If there is a condition, it is not love. It is an exchange, trading and business transaction. It is an insult to the teaching of Jesus Christ by turning love into a trade. Now, you know why some pastors are millionaires.</p>

<p>Did God give His only begotten Son?</p>

<p>Mark 16:19 
â€œSo then, when the Lord Jesus had spoken to them, He was received up into heaven and sat down at the right hand of God.â€</p>

<p>God did not give His only begotten Son. Jesus went back and â€œsat down at the right hand of God.â€ 
If something is given and taken back, it is not giving.
If I have a son who can come back and sit at my right hand after he dies, I will happily send him to fight in the wars and die a hundred times.</p>

<p>True sacrifice does not mean sacrificing a scapegoat or getting someone to die for you on the cross. This is the reason why Protestants and Catholics are having religious conflict. They cannot unite if they pray to Satan in the name of God. If they want harmony and peace, they must be guided by universal values because God guides them through the universal values.</p>

<p>Universal values are accepted by people of different religions because they are divine.</p>

<p>Religious values are not accepted by people of different religions because they are not divine.</p>

<p>The Thirty Year War (1618-1648) was a series of wars in central Europe stemmed from conflict between Protestants and Catholics.Four million people were killed and another 20 million were made homeless. Each group claimed it was fighting for God.</p>

<p>The lesson learnt from this war is we should separate religion from politics. Our daily life should be guided by universal values like care and compassion. Love for power should be replaced by power of love to care for our community and country.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Choong</title>
		<link>http://catherinelim.sg/2009/05/06/fallout-of-the-aware-saga-a-letter-to-concerned-parents/comment-page-3/#comment-1146</link>
		<dc:creator>Choong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 10:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There is this British program &quot;The Big Debate -Religion in School&quot; on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5HBfmhGSzU&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The program touches on topics of religion, abortion, homosexuality and how it should be taught to students.
I hope parents, students and whoever interested will take time to view the vid.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is this British program &#8220;The Big Debate -Religion in School&#8221; on YouTube:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5HBfmhGSzU" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5HBfmhGSzU</a></p>

<p>The program touches on topics of religion, abortion, homosexuality and how it should be taught to students.
I hope parents, students and whoever interested will take time to view the vid.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: IAmNotGay</title>
		<link>http://catherinelim.sg/2009/05/06/fallout-of-the-aware-saga-a-letter-to-concerned-parents/comment-page-3/#comment-1131</link>
		<dc:creator>IAmNotGay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 02:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I continue to be amused by the explanations from pro-gay groups.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Even after the government has stated clearly their position, they still don&#039;t get it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Even after the government has slammed AWARE for what they have done and even stated that until AWARE gains the trust of parents again, their program will not be consider, they still don&#039;t get it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;These militant pro-gay supporters continue to battle it out on the net and yet fail to confront the government when it&#039;s the government that is the strongest critic of their actions. They continue to write in forums and try their confusion strategy.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This Dana Lam is so lame to continue to harp on the fact that there were no complaints for the last 2 years when they launch their stealth underhanded plan to push a pro-gay agenda as a means to justify that they are right. Look at the bottom line. The government has slammed AWARE CSE, they have further stated that they were unaware of the instructors manual which was not shown to them nor was the government told that they told of the position they will take on homosexuality and anal sex &#8212; even when the limits of the program must be centered around the family as a basic unit framework.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This shows that Dana Lam continues to deny that the CSE is wrong even after all the admonishment by the government that it wrong. This goes to show that she and the whole AWARE will continue to push their pro-gay agenda &#8212; perhaps in another sneaky way which the majority and government will not notice. She is not even remorseful about what they have done nor acknowledged their folly. Instead try to mitigate the fiasco using meaningless words like â€œregrettableâ€ and â€œthey understandâ€.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;When there is not acknowledgement of guilt, there is no change. This means AWARE will not regain the trust of parents. What a silly action to waste a chance to come clean and rebuilt. AWARE will be a pariah NGO and all straight thinking person will abandon it and become a base of all pro-gay groups. It should change its name to some Pro-Gay name instead &#8212; like IAMGAY.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I continue to be amused by the explanations from pro-gay groups.</p>

<p>Even after the government has stated clearly their position, they still don&#8217;t get it.</p>

<p>Even after the government has slammed AWARE for what they have done and even stated that until AWARE gains the trust of parents again, their program will not be consider, they still don&#8217;t get it.</p>

<p>These militant pro-gay supporters continue to battle it out on the net and yet fail to confront the government when it&#8217;s the government that is the strongest critic of their actions. They continue to write in forums and try their confusion strategy.</p>

<p>This Dana Lam is so lame to continue to harp on the fact that there were no complaints for the last 2 years when they launch their stealth underhanded plan to push a pro-gay agenda as a means to justify that they are right. Look at the bottom line. The government has slammed AWARE CSE, they have further stated that they were unaware of the instructors manual which was not shown to them nor was the government told that they told of the position they will take on homosexuality and anal sex &mdash; even when the limits of the program must be centered around the family as a basic unit framework.</p>

<p>This shows that Dana Lam continues to deny that the CSE is wrong even after all the admonishment by the government that it wrong. This goes to show that she and the whole AWARE will continue to push their pro-gay agenda &mdash; perhaps in another sneaky way which the majority and government will not notice. She is not even remorseful about what they have done nor acknowledged their folly. Instead try to mitigate the fiasco using meaningless words like â€œregrettableâ€ and â€œthey understandâ€.</p>

<p>When there is not acknowledgement of guilt, there is no change. This means AWARE will not regain the trust of parents. What a silly action to waste a chance to come clean and rebuilt. AWARE will be a pariah NGO and all straight thinking person will abandon it and become a base of all pro-gay groups. It should change its name to some Pro-Gay name instead &mdash; like IAMGAY.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Ridiculuous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ridiculuous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 16:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If one can turn gay so easily, one should question the so-called strong belief and fate of one particular group of religion.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;What happens when the child turns gay?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Is it the fault of the parents who have religiously instill in them that gay is wrong? And even if they have done so and fail, I wanna LOL at them.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Or the child? Is it his/her fault that he/she prefer someone from the same sex?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I heard of gay animal, I wonder who instilled in them their natural instinct. Must be they are exposed to the 5 minutes long of CSE programme. That must have explained it!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If that is the case, I am in full support for the disband of all sex related documents/notion. The thought of sex shall be wiped off from the face of this earth!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If one can turn gay so easily, one should question the so-called strong belief and fate of one particular group of religion.</p>

<p>What happens when the child turns gay?</p>

<p>Is it the fault of the parents who have religiously instill in them that gay is wrong? And even if they have done so and fail, I wanna LOL at them.</p>

<p>Or the child? Is it his/her fault that he/she prefer someone from the same sex?</p>

<p>I heard of gay animal, I wonder who instilled in them their natural instinct. Must be they are exposed to the 5 minutes long of CSE programme. That must have explained it!</p>

<p>If that is the case, I am in full support for the disband of all sex related documents/notion. The thought of sex shall be wiped off from the face of this earth!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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